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Malissa, who is thirty and married with no kids (but several pets), wants our help finding a versatile fragrance she can wear all year round, day or night. Malissa lives in Oregon, and loves going to the beach and being outdoors. She does most of her shopping online, and her price limit for her new fragrance is $150.
Malissa likes vanilla, amber, pepper, musk, and woods; she sometimes likes green notes but finds many green fragrances too sharp. She also likes realistic (“easy to recognize”) floral notes, and wonders if a soliflore might be a good thing? Perfumes Malissa has liked include Avon True Glow, Jennifer Lopez Miami Glow and Donna Karan Cashmere Mist. Perfumes that were “just ok” include Dior Midnight Poison and Victoria’s Secret Very Sexy red (the first one). She liked the opening of Chanel Chance, but the dry down was annoying.
Malissa doesn’t like like ginger, gardenia, tuberose, anise, or heavy spices. Perfumes that don’t work for her include Thierry Mugler Angel, Bvlgari Black, Tom Ford Purple Patchouli & Black Orchid, and Kim Kardashian.
What say you?
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My instinct is to say, Safran Troublant, although it doesn’t contain all the notes that you’re looking for.
It is soft and creamy, with a simple rose and just enough saffron tang to make it a little spicy. It took me a little while to decide whether or not I like ST, but I’ve come to really love it.
I’m in Oregon too! Message me at MUA (deeHowe) and I’d be happy to send you a sample (if you haven’t already tried it
).
thanks. I’ll have to register with them first. I’m at work right now, so I’ll do it later.
Oh, you don’t have to do that! I shouldn’t assume that everyone’s on MUA already. You can email me at:
daniellehowe at live dot com
My first thought was Annick Goutal Heure Exquisite. Floral, vanilla and sandalwood. This would work no matter the season or weather and can be worn day or night.
I would love to suggest Poivre Samarcande, even though it’s a little over the limit… $180. Beautiful pepper fragrance! Versatile, long-lasting, and never overwhelming. Another Suggestion could be some of the Montales perhaps? Like Roses Musk or Velvet Flowers? Montale does his musks perfectly, pairs them with florals beautifully.
yup spendy…BUT —she could check ebay for a better priced bottle……**hint hint hint**
Girl, get yourself some Kenzo Amour Le Parfum! It’s vanillic, like original Amour, but a little spicier and woodier. It’s fabulous, you’ll love it. It’s not on Sephora’s website anymore, but I often still see it in stores.
10 Corso Como Uomo may fit the bill: Vanilla, ylang ylang, black pepper, cedar, amber, bergamot, jasmine. It is very yummy.
Hey! What about Ava Luxe’s Love’s True Bluish Light? Or Luten’s Un Bois Vanille? Samples first, obviously
what does ‘bois’ mean? and nuit and vent vert? Sorry, I never took French in school.
bois= wood, nuit= night , vert = green if that’s any help… where’s Bella when we need her?
You called?
You’ve already answered anyway. Only left out ‘vent’ = ‘wind or breeze’.
Thanks to both of you! I better start taking French!
hahaha Merci Bela! actually I left that one out because I wasn’t sure if it was “wind’ or “breeze” the degree of difference like wave vs. flood….or if there were two words for those and I’d use the wrong one….and expose how very little I recall of 5 years of french in school!
How about Prada L’Eau Ambree? No pepper there, but the amber note is really nice and gentle, plus I find it extremely sexy, and we have to think about pleasing husbands too, right?
I would add the always wonderful Shalimar EDT, quite simply the most beautiful vanilla note one can imagine.
Oh, a bit pricier, unless you get a decant, but smooth, creamy amber and vanilla is Guerlain’s Attrape Coeur. Actually, Malissa, I recommend you try all the l’Art et la Matiere collection
I second those!
In particular, I would single out Tonka Imperiale, in the l’art et la matière collection, though personally, I prefer Guerlain’s classics: warm green Chamade? The ambery-woody Vol de nuit? The almond powder of l’heure bleue? Shalimar’s patisserie?
I don’t have any specific recommendations, but Malissa should consider going to The Perfume House in Portland. They have a large collection, including things which are getting hard to find on the internet, and the salespeople are knowledgeable and friendly, and willing to spend time with a customer. I had a great time when I visited last March.
Thanks, I didn’t know about that.
… and if you don’t want to go alone, there are at least a few of us that would be happy to tag along (myself included
)
Thanks but I don’t know when I’ll get up there. I live three hours south of Portland.
I second this recommendation. This is a wonderful shop!
Bulgaria Omnia?
Great suggestion!
Hi Malissa,
I totally second Lupo’s and lovethescents suggestions!
My other picks for you are:
Serge Lutens Chergui, Fumerie Turque, Ambre sultan and Santal de Myosore.
If you liked Chance’s top, you could be happy with Chanel 31 Rue Cambon, more beautiful but way more expensive (200 $ I believe)…
I’m not really sure about the Chance. I could’ve just been in a weird mood that day. :p
When, oh WHEN will the smaller bottles of those get here!! I know, I know… patience….. But Still!!!!
Hi Malissa,
I’d recommend trying out some Estee Lauders such as Sensuous or Amber Ylang Ylang. Also thirding Guerlain Attrape-Coeur. I was wondering which easy to recognise floral notes you prefer? If you like rose, then you must try Ormonde Jayne Ta’if, because it is ambery and peppery.
Ditto for Sensuous.
Second OJ’s Ta’if!
woods …. Maybe OJ’s Woman, too?? Interestingly, Paris by Balenciaga also has pepper and I love it as well. It has great lasting power on me, whereas usually I am like a sponge with scent. I swear when I die…they will barely need any formaldehyde at all from all the perfume in my blood. I’m practically preserved already.
I absolutely second Ta’if, also Ormonde Jayne, Champaca – a slightly gourmand floral that is suitable for day and evening.
Also, once it is officially released, I recommend Une Rose Vermeille from Andy Tauer. It’s a gorgeous rose scent with a ‘raspberries and cream’.
I agree the Estee Lauder and OJ line are worthy of exploration. From EL look at Aliage, Azuree, Cinnabar and Beyond Paradise.
The Jasmine White Moss is fantastic but I think you may have to go to Saks for that one.
Yes, I like rose, lilac, and hyacinth the best. The only florals that I know I don’t like are gardenia and tuberose.
Ooh hyacinth, that’s a lovely and unusual note. A very pretty but sophisticated hyacinth, rose, woody scent with a touch of vanilla is Guerlain Nahema, which I think you may like. If you are looking for a soliflore, L’Artisan Jacinthe de Bois is a true-to-life woody hyacinth, but I find it a bit dull and it is discontinued, thus bound to be pricey. Good luck!
Ah! Hyacinth, rose and lilac? With vanilla? CHAMADE from Guerlain! There is a wonderful review of it on this blog, do give it a go!
Hi,
Suggesting Lalique Le Parfum. To my nose it’s a peppery vanilla scent. You can find it online perfume discounters for a great price.
Good luck and have fun sampling all these great recs.
~D
Thanks!
Really good perfume! I love it!
These are a lot of great suggestions. I might add Annick Goutal Vanille Exquise and L’Artisan Vanilia — and in the cheap thrills category, Victoria’s Secret’s Amber Romance is a nice amber! I would definitely give Estee Lauder’s Sensuous a try too.
Maybe L’Artisan Havanah Vanille, although there is no pepper in it. Or Joop Le Bain, but I don’t know whether that is availabe in Oregon, has also no pepper in it.
Caron Parfum Sacre, and not just because I’m on a PS kick, although I am. It’s a nice peppery rose. It’s got some decent sillage, but it’s not too strong. Also, the amber/woods/musk/vanilla angle made me think *maybe* Chanel Bois des Iles and Ormonde Jayne Woman. I think both are over budget, but there’s always ways around that.
And if you ever do, as Rick suggested, come to the Perfume House I am happy to join you.
In fact, I’m plotting to go there after work today…
Thanks. Eventually I’m going to go there, but I don’t know when because I live three hours away.
That would certainly make it quite the pilgrimage. I think we need an Oregon Perfumista day or something, where we can all get together and shop.
Yay! I’ll save my pennies
Actually, I just bought a FB of Ormonde Woman a few months ago, and with shipping (from England) it was about $115.
I would recommend Sonoma Scent Studio’s Champagne de Bois as well as their Amber Noir. Beautiful and well done scents that are very affordable.
Have you tried Hypnotic Poison yet? It’s a sweet vanilla musk with a touch of almond. It might just hit the spot.
For boozey peppery amber vanilla, I adore the new Idole de Lubin. Love love love.
For a light peppery floral with soft green notes, Estee Lauder Pleasures is delightful. They also have a caramel gourmande version – Pleasures Delight, but I am partial to the original. Of course, Hermes Poivre Samarcande is another wonderful pepper scent, and Ambre Narguille is a rich vanilla amber – too rich for my blood, but well loved by many parfumistas.
Thanks. I tried the Hypnotic Poison, but it seemed to disappear on my skin. I couldn’t smell it.
For vanilla I say Micallef Note Vanillee-jasmine/ vanilla w a touch of booze and tobacco,
and Kenzo Amour- cozy, milky, versatile- cherry blossom, rice steam, white tea, frangipani, heliotrope, thanaka wood, incense, vanilla and musk
For soft greens I suggest
Dawn Spencer Hurwitz Celadon, Ineke Balmy Days and Sundays, and Dawn Spencer Hurwitz Rose Vert.
hey Valkyrie—I just saw an ooooold email from you–cleaning out the gmail box what a job!—did I ever send those samples to you? I don’t think I did….I need to go get those…
I think it’s the year-round part that is really throwing me here. But I guess with careful application when it’s hot and muggy you can get away with it…..oh, and anything that I recommend you try—I’d also be willing to send you a sample (how easy is that?)
31 Rue Cambon
Fifi Chachnil
Bois des Iles
OJ Woman
Caron Montaigne
JHag citizen Queen
Hilde Soliani Il tuo tulipano
L’Artisan Mimosa pour Moi
Attrape Coeur
Amber Narguile
Hermes 24 Faubourg
Aqua di parma Iris Nobile
Micallef Vanilla Aoud (don’t worry, not very oud-y at all)
Satellite Padparadscha
Delrae Mythique
SSS Champagne de Bois (I think Rapple mentioned this already–it is great stuff)
If you like rose…what about something like Rosine Secrets de Rose?
and it wouldn’t hurt to give DK Gold a spin.
A number of the things listed here today are kinda pricey–but that can be ameliorated by the all-powerful perfume Split! In fact with $150 to spend you could end up with a nice variety of splits to choose from each day…of course that may not be your goal at all.
Anyhow…if anything I’ve mentioned sounds good to you drop me a note at Daisyloo82 at gmail dot com and I can get you started on some sniffing.
Second on Parfum Delrae Mythique! Also L’Artisan Cote d’Amour. While not easily identifiable, the immortelle gives it a slight sweet element that mixes well with the driftwood and salt.
Andy Tauer’s Incense Rose could work really well. It’s very warm and distinct version of roses.
What does iris smell like? I tried Iris Silver Mist, and if I remember right it smelled like salad or cucumber or something like that. Was that the iris? Or maybe it was the Unicorn Spell that smelled like that. I can’t remember now.
usually when you see iris or orris as a note in perfume they are not talking about the flower but the root. I think it has a soft earthy smell lightly floral, some people characterize it as cold like in Hermes Hiris or buttery like in VC&A Bois d’Iris…. Iris is one of my favorite notes in perfumery. Unicorn spell is probably the salad one ( I hate it) and Iris Silver Mist is probably the carroty one…I get a lot of carrot in ISM….not my favorite iris. I can also send you some iris samples —if you haven’t explored iris you are really missing something good!
Awesome! Thank you.
I second the Caron Montaigne and it’s not very expensive.
yes….AnnS has sucked another of us into her web….she’s one tricky little enabler, she is! I found some of the new Edp and vintage edt on ebay…. a frenzy of bidding ensued…..
dare I say : mwahahahahaha!
Montaigne is nice!
Yves Rocher Vanille Noire and Yves Rocher So Elixir EDT are warm, cozy fragrances. Have you tried them?
Have a look at the notes. I think you could like them.
For vanillic gently spicy ambers, how about Anne Pliska or i Profumi di Firenze’s Ambra del Nepal?
Also thirding Serge Lutens Chergui, EL Sensuous, and Ormonde Jayne Ta’if.
I suggests that she explores the Boucheron line.
I think she might like “Trouble”… the all year round thing confuses me too, but perhaps she could apply it lightly or “mist it” in summer?
There is also an “eau legere” version
Good Hunting!
Thanks. I don’t really care if it’s for summer or winter, I’ll take suggestions for both. “Trouble” sounds intriguing.
Melissa, since you like vanilla and the idea of an identifiable flower, I would suggest the beautiful vanilla-rose Tocade by Rochas. I have more bottles and samples than I can count these days, but Tocade remains one of my favs. And it is inexplicably available for under $30 on Amazon – plenty of change left over to sample all the other wonderful scents mentioned above and get some decants
I’m going to chime in with a recommendation to try one of my favorites, Shaal Nur by Etro. It is perhaps best described as a rose oriental, but is quite complex. Listed notes are lemon, bergamot, grapefruit, tangerine, rosewood, coriander, thyme, tarragon, rosemary, karo karoundé, rose, petit grain, nutmeg, patchouli, vetiver, cedar wood, opoponax, incense, and musk. It has beautiful incense and vetiver in the base, and I consider the fragrance to be feminine and understated. Very special!
I’m a hot one to chime in, as I know so little, but what occurred to me was Tiempe Passate, which I find very peppery, and Jo Malone’s Dark Amber and Sweet Ginger. Incensey. I love both of these; the JM tend not to last too long, but this one I find special. They have a new one called Vanilla and Anise, but it doesn’t blow my skirt up. Man, what a lot of help out there for you! Good luck. Wish I were near a big city so I could go testing for hours. M
Oops, sorry, I didn’t read the part about what you DIDN’T like: ginger and anise….but I don’t get a really strong ginger feel with Dark Amber and Sweet Ginger….scratch the Vanilla and Anise, obviously, but, I never got a whiff of anise in there, anyway, really….
maybe ginger and anise doesn’t sound good to Malissa, but it sure sounds good to me! Thanks for the rec.
How about L’Artisan’s Poivre Piquant? It starts out with lots of white pepper and slowly moves into a beautiful milky, creamy vanillic drydown. My kids love it!