Comments on: Nina Ricci to sue makers of Twilight http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/ a blog about perfume Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:12:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69316 Anonymous Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:58:28 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69316 Don't really think it's more likely -- I mean, you can see that it's made w/ cheaper materials than the original, so somebody would have had to copy it one way or the other... Don't really think it's more likely — I mean, you can see that it's made w/ cheaper materials than the original, so somebody would have had to copy it one way or the other…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69315 Anonymous Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:09:39 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69315 a custom perfume bottle costs a fortune to make, and a custom bottle designer would know if a design was trademarked- it seems highly doubtful that the makers of the Twilight scent would have poured thousands and thousands of dollars to create a custom bottle exactly like Nina Ricci's bottle. the theory about the manufacturer selling off an end lot or someone "finding" or "buying" some bottles and re-selling them to the Twilight people seems more likely. why risk a lawsuit? i'm sure if the bottles were made available to Twilight people as in, "here, look at this lovely apple shaped bottle, wouldn't it be perfect?" they said "perfect! we'll take them all" Nina Ricci needs to look inside their organization and manufacturing to see who the thief is. a custom perfume bottle costs a fortune to make, and a custom bottle designer would know if a design was trademarked- it seems highly doubtful that the makers of the Twilight scent would have poured thousands and thousands of dollars to create a custom bottle exactly like Nina Ricci's bottle.

the theory about the manufacturer selling off an end lot or someone “finding” or “buying” some bottles and re-selling them to the Twilight people seems more likely. why risk a lawsuit? i'm sure if the bottles were made available to Twilight people as in, “here, look at this lovely apple shaped bottle, wouldn't it be perfect?” they said “perfect! we'll take them all”

Nina Ricci needs to look inside their organization and manufacturing to see who the thief is.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69314 Anonymous Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:13:02 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69314 I would laugh hysterically if it wasn't 11 at night right now.. I would laugh hysterically if it wasn't 11 at night right now..

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69313 Anonymous Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:59:12 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69313 Yep, it's being tossed right back at the manufacturer. http://www.shoppingblog.com/cgi-bin/sblog.pl?sblog=117097 Yep, it's being tossed right back at the manufacturer. http://www.shoppingblog.com/cgi-bin/sblog.pl?sblog=117097

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69295 Anonymous Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:16:57 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69295 My comment is meant to be in jest, don´t take me so seriously ;-) It's just that I'm in a "If God gives you lemons" kind of mood, so I was trying to look at a possible positive outcome instead of focusing in lawsuits! :-) I don't know about the thing of "not being associated to".. in the end, in my opinion, luxury and exclusivity is when 1000 people out of 6 billion can have it, or when the item is hand-made. When 3 out of 6 billion can have it if they want to, then you can say what you want, but that is not exclusivity, it is plain mainstream, even if the price is steep. Kindest! P. My comment is meant to be in jest, don´t take me so seriously ;-)

It's just that I'm in a “If God gives you lemons” kind of mood, so I was trying to look at a possible positive outcome instead of focusing in lawsuits! :-)

I don't know about the thing of “not being associated to”.. in the end, in my opinion, luxury and exclusivity is when 1000 people out of 6 billion can have it, or when the item is hand-made.

When 3 out of 6 billion can have it if they want to, then you can say what you want, but that is not exclusivity, it is plain mainstream, even if the price is steep.

Kindest!

P.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69283 Anonymous Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:19:34 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69283 That was my first thought, too; a manufacturing-level "uh-oh!" Someone sold the Twilight licensee some end-stock. I'm skeptical--highly skeptical, given that I own a Nina bottle and have compared it to the Twilight photos online---that the Nina bottle is somehow so exclusive, so special, so Lalique (!) that the co. licensed to produce a Twilight perfume blatantly copied them. That was my first thought, too; a manufacturing-level “uh-oh!” Someone sold the Twilight licensee some end-stock.

I'm skeptical–highly skeptical, given that I own a Nina bottle and have compared it to the Twilight photos online—that the Nina bottle is somehow so exclusive, so special, so Lalique (!) that the co. licensed to produce a Twilight perfume blatantly copied them.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69312 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:27:38 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69312 I doubt if the packaging for Twilight is the same qulaity as the Nina Ricci. I can't imagine that it's a supplier issue. Here's why: 1. Nina Ricci's bottle designs are by Lalique. It's not a "standard design" -- in fact, it's probabkly trademarked and copyrighted. 2. Nina Ricci's marketing includes comments like this one: A perfume is intimately tied to images that inspire dreams. Its bottle helps visualise the fragrance and triggers the imagination. The beauty, quality and sophistication of these original pieces comprise a unique collection in keeping with the finest French tradition of prestige perfume art and creation. Each piece is handcrafted using traditional crystal-making techniques: polishing, cutting, sand-etching to obtain effects of transparency, ground stoppers, etc. I doubt if the packaging for Twilight is the same qulaity as the Nina Ricci. I can't imagine that it's a supplier issue. Here's why:

1. Nina Ricci's bottle designs are by Lalique. It's not a “standard design” — in fact, it's probabkly trademarked and copyrighted.

2. Nina Ricci's marketing includes comments like this one: A perfume is intimately tied to images that inspire dreams. Its bottle helps visualise the fragrance and triggers the imagination. The beauty, quality and sophistication of these original pieces comprise a unique collection in keeping with the finest French tradition of prestige perfume art and creation. Each piece is handcrafted using traditional crystal-making techniques: polishing, cutting, sand-etching to obtain effects of transparency, ground stoppers, etc.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69304 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:22:31 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69304 I doubt if that's the case, given that Nina Ricci's markting includes comments like this one by Robert Ricci: “A perfume is a work of art, and the object that contains it must be a masterpiece.” And this one: A perfume is intimately tied to images that inspire dreams. Its bottle helps visualise the fragrance and triggers the imagination. The beauty, quality and sophistication of these original pieces comprise a unique collection in keeping with the finest French tradition of prestige perfume art and creation. Each piece is handcrafted using traditional crystal-making techniques: polishing, cutting, sand-etching to obtain effects of transparency, ground stoppers, etc. I doubt if Hot Topic is selling anything packaged in handcrafted crystal. I doubt if that's the case, given that Nina Ricci's markting includes comments like this one by Robert Ricci: “A perfume is a work of art, and the object that contains it must be a masterpiece.”

And this one:

A perfume is intimately tied to images that inspire dreams. Its bottle helps visualise the fragrance and triggers the imagination. The beauty, quality and sophistication of these original pieces comprise a unique collection in keeping with the finest French tradition of prestige perfume art and creation. Each piece is handcrafted using traditional crystal-making techniques: polishing, cutting, sand-etching to obtain effects of transparency, ground stoppers, etc.

I doubt if Hot Topic is selling anything packaged in handcrafted crystal.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69300 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:17:29 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69300 Perhaps Nina Ricci wants to make it clear that there is no association. I'm sure for them, the disassociation is much more important than any money from a lawsuit. Perhaps Nina Ricci wants to make it clear that there is no association. I'm sure for them, the disassociation is much more important than any money from a lawsuit.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69297 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:14:56 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2009/01/14/nina-ricci-to-sue-makers-of-twilight/#comment-69297 Nina Ricci is a high-end product. Their target audince isn't the general public. They really don't have that much to gain from this kind of publicity. And if it were a mutually agreed-upon stunt, then Nina Ricci couldn't file a lawsuit. Nina Ricci is a high-end product. Their target audince isn't the general public. They really don't have that much to gain from this kind of publicity. And if it were a mutually agreed-upon stunt, then Nina Ricci couldn't file a lawsuit.

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