Comments on: IFRA proposes restrictions on use of citrus oils http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/ a blog about perfume Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:20:15 -0400 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39510 Anonymous Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:15:44 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39510 See, that is insane -- how many people do you know who've had an allergic reaction to Nivea?? Do people really envision (or even want) a world in which anything that is potentially allergenic is banned? Bah. See, that is insane — how many people do you know who've had an allergic reaction to Nivea?? Do people really envision (or even want) a world in which anything that is potentially allergenic is banned? Bah.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39508 Anonymous Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:13:54 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39508 It seems crazy to me too :-( It seems crazy to me too :-(

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39509 Anonymous Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:50:40 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39509 Sad sad sad... If I get it right it all has to do with photo-carcinogenic potentials. Why don't they just ask users to apply perfume to "shady" areas? That would solve the problem. Or just advice people to wear a f*ing scarf!! I do that in the sun anyway... I just imagine all those Colognes, Geez, the Guerlain Eaux without natural citrus!! I just got upset yesterday about EU regulations that make producers of drinks use a standardised bottle size (0,75ml) for export. I'm really not a pessimist but where is this all going? Just something that comes to my mind. Dunno if there's a connection: NIVEA have reformulated their famous scent for their skincare product (e.g. for the skin cream introduced in 1911) some years ago. I read an interview with the award winning (for reformulating a scent that existed about 100 years?) house perfumer who said they replaced the natural bergamot oil with synthetic because of potential allergic reactions. But allergy and photo-carcinogenic potential sound like two different pair of shoes... Sad sad sad… If I get it right it all has to do with photo-carcinogenic potentials. Why don't they just ask users to apply perfume to “shady” areas? That would solve the problem. Or just advice people to wear a f*ing scarf!! I do that in the sun anyway…
I just imagine all those Colognes, Geez, the Guerlain Eaux without natural citrus!!
I just got upset yesterday about EU regulations that make producers of drinks use a standardised bottle size (0,75ml) for export. I'm really not a pessimist but where is this all going?
Just something that comes to my mind. Dunno if there's a connection: NIVEA have reformulated their famous scent for their skincare product (e.g. for the skin cream introduced in 1911) some years ago. I read an interview with the award winning (for reformulating a scent that existed about 100 years?) house perfumer who said they replaced the natural bergamot oil with synthetic because of potential allergic reactions. But allergy and photo-carcinogenic potential sound like two different pair of shoes…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39507 Anonymous Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:03:59 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39507 If this does come to pass, it will be very very bad news for me. I am a huge fan of citrus fragrances, and also use cosmetics and cleaning products made with natural citrus oils. How can oil extracted from citrus rind possibly be any more harmful than syntheic products cooked up in a lab? (not that synthetic products are necessarily). It seems crazy to me that this would even be considered. If this does come to pass, it will be very very bad news for me. I am a huge fan of citrus fragrances, and also use cosmetics and cleaning products made with natural citrus oils. How can oil extracted from citrus rind possibly be any more harmful than syntheic products cooked up in a lab? (not that synthetic products are necessarily). It seems crazy to me that this would even be considered.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39506 Anonymous Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:20:59 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39506 You can learn more about how IFRA amendments turn into regulations here: http://www.basenotes.net/columnists/20070223cropwatchvsifra.html although that is not an unbiased source either, and I will readily admit that I am both biased and uninformed. Strictly speaking, I suppose I should have just posted the news without comment in this case... You can learn more about how IFRA amendments turn into regulations here:

http://www.basenotes.net/columnists/20070223cropwatchvsifra.html

although that is not an unbiased source either, and I will readily admit that I am both biased and uninformed. Strictly speaking, I suppose I should have just posted the news without comment in this case…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39505 Anonymous Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:20:12 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39505 OK, I didn't go do the research, but I did post a question on Anya's blog about this -- we'll see what she says. OK, I didn't go do the research, but I did post a question on Anya's blog about this — we'll see what she says.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39504 Anonymous Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:10:42 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39504 I have always been puzzled as to why the perfume companies so quickly fell in line with IFRA's recommendations. They don't actually make laws or enforce their recs -- or do they? I've always wondered if those who followed the recs were waiting for an excuse to use less expensive products... Or perhaps once IFRA turns its eye on a component it becomes much harder to obtain? Sorry for all the (likely unanswerable) questions -- guess I should go read up! LOL But it is difficult to feel one is getting unbiased information on this topic... I have always been puzzled as to why the perfume companies so quickly fell in line with IFRA's recommendations. They don't actually make laws or enforce their recs — or do they?
I've always wondered if those who followed the recs were waiting for an excuse to use less expensive products…
Or perhaps once IFRA turns its eye on a component it becomes much harder to obtain?
Sorry for all the (likely unanswerable) questions — guess I should go read up! LOL But it is difficult to feel one is getting unbiased information on this topic…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39503 Anonymous Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:55:10 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39503 Joe, I can't answer except that I think it's obvious that the oakmoss restrictions had a HUGE effect, and one that is easily noticed by consumers (or at least, perfumista-type consumers). Given that oakmoss appeared to pose little or no danger to the vast majority of consumers, I think that's just tragic. Joe, I can't answer except that I think it's obvious that the oakmoss restrictions had a HUGE effect, and one that is easily noticed by consumers (or at least, perfumista-type consumers). Given that oakmoss appeared to pose little or no danger to the vast majority of consumers, I think that's just tragic.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39501 Anonymous Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:51:21 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39501 As I said, I can't comment on the science -- I know nothing at all about it. As I said, I can't comment on the science — I know nothing at all about it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39502 Anonymous Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:43:33 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2008/03/26/ifra-proposes-restrictions-on-use-of-citrus-oils/#comment-39502 This is interesting, though like you I don't have the patience to do more than skim those articles. I'm curious to know, really, how much modern perfumery still relies on natural oils and extracts versus synthetics. It's entirely possible that stricter regulation will hardly be noticed by the consumer. It's unfortunate that in the era of litigation, business needs to be super-vigilant about its approach to risk when self regulating. I can see both sides of the regulation debate: sometimes it seems ludicrous, but then at times we'd be screaming if we found out that something was "dangerous" and we as consumers either weren't told about it or weren't "protected" from it. Also, loved the quote "what do you expect... she wore L'Heure Bleue." This is interesting, though like you I don't have the patience to do more than skim those articles.

I'm curious to know, really, how much modern perfumery still relies on natural oils and extracts versus synthetics. It's entirely possible that stricter regulation will hardly be noticed by the consumer. It's unfortunate that in the era of litigation, business needs to be super-vigilant about its approach to risk when self regulating. I can see both sides of the regulation debate: sometimes it seems ludicrous, but then at times we'd be screaming if we found out that something was “dangerous” and we as consumers either weren't told about it or weren't “protected” from it.

Also, loved the quote “what do you expect… she wore L'Heure Bleue.”

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