Comments on: Perfume blogging & ethics http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/09/perfume-blogging-ethics/ a blog about perfume Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:19:50 -0400 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/09/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23744 Anonymous Sun, 13 May 2007 16:30:00 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/10/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23744 That's it! LOL! That's it! LOL!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/09/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23743 Anonymous Sun, 13 May 2007 15:51:00 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/10/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23743 So, we just have to think of a way to compel every fragrance company on earth to send me all their product, LOL! So, we just have to think of a way to compel every fragrance company on earth to send me all their product, LOL!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/09/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23742 Anonymous Sun, 13 May 2007 12:01:00 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/10/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23742 I'm not sure I agree with your first point: both of you are just giving a subjective opinion. To the question, 'Is this perfume worth bothering with?, no one has *the* answer. If you tell me that a particular perfume is rubbish I believe you just as much as LT or any of his 'co-authors'. Your second point is compelling, however, and you've convinced me. :-) I'm not sure I agree with your first point: both of you are just giving a subjective opinion. To the question, 'Is this perfume worth bothering with?, no one has *the* answer. If you tell me that a particular perfume is rubbish I believe you just as much as LT or any of his 'co-authors'.

Your second point is compelling, however, and you've convinced me. :-)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/09/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23741 Anonymous Sat, 12 May 2007 23:52:00 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/10/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23741 For me, the difference is simple. I am not an expert on fragrances by any means, and I do not pretend to give any kind of expert advice. This is a "consumer" blog in every sense of that word, and I would like it to stay that way, so my ethical considerations must be different than someone publishing a guide to perfumes. Second, if I had the means to compel every fragrance company to send me a bottle of every single one of their products, then I suppose I'd have little reason to favor one over another, right? But accepting gifts from only those who offered them would perhaps leave me inclined to favor some over others. For me, the difference is simple. I am not an expert on fragrances by any means, and I do not pretend to give any kind of expert advice. This is a “consumer” blog in every sense of that word, and I would like it to stay that way, so my ethical considerations must be different than someone publishing a guide to perfumes.

Second, if I had the means to compel every fragrance company to send me a bottle of every single one of their products, then I suppose I'd have little reason to favor one over another, right? But accepting gifts from only those who offered them would perhaps leave me inclined to favor some over others.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/09/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23740 Anonymous Sat, 12 May 2007 17:02:00 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/10/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23740 I know this thread is fairly cold now, but I've only just read this - by Luca Turin: 'Tania Sanchez (my co-author) and I have started work on a perfume guide to come out next year in the US. [...] It’s early days yet, but in six weeks the size of my perfume collection has doubled to about 1400, and the postman rings almost every day with a wry look, hands me a parcel and says wearily “More perfumes for you” as if praying I will soon find an aftershave to my liking. A few days ago came a big parcel from the small but fiercely dedicated Omani firm of Amouage. They make the fabulous Gold, once the most expensive fragrance in the world, for what has now become a reasonable price. The bottles are lead crystal, and the box was almost too heavy to lift. Was there ever a better job?' Are gods and goddesses less prone to being influenced by freebies than mere mortal bloggers? Or is it sacrilegious to even ask? I know this thread is fairly cold now, but I've only just read this – by Luca Turin:

'Tania Sanchez (my co-author) and I have started work on a perfume guide to come out next year in the US. [...] It’s early days yet, but in six weeks the size of my perfume collection has doubled to about 1400, and the postman rings almost every day with a wry look, hands me a parcel and says wearily “More perfumes for you” as if praying I will soon find an aftershave to my liking. A few days ago came a big parcel from the small but fiercely dedicated Omani firm of Amouage. They make the fabulous Gold, once the most expensive fragrance in the world, for what has now become a reasonable price. The bottles are lead crystal, and the box was almost too heavy to lift. Was there ever a better job?'

Are gods and goddesses less prone to being influenced by freebies than mere mortal bloggers? Or is it sacrilegious to even ask?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/09/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23735 Anonymous Sat, 12 May 2007 14:22:00 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/10/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23735 Your way of looking at it is no doubt more sensible than mine, and certainly less likely to lead to disappointment. Your way of looking at it is no doubt more sensible than mine, and certainly less likely to lead to disappointment.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/09/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23734 Anonymous Fri, 11 May 2007 19:29:00 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/10/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23734 Well you see, that is the difference there. It is the conflict between your expectations and reality. If Hermes puts out a stinker, it is a stinker - to you. Any reaction is yours to choose. It's all about not giving our power away to others. If I have determined I know best how other bloggers should conduct their reviews, then I am going to get upset when they do otherwise. Since I can't control what other people do, I set myself up to have my buttons pushed when things don't go as I think they should. Why can't Hermes put out whatever they want? They can put out a crappy fruity floral (which about 1/2 the population would probably love) and you can just simply decide not buy it while still appreciating all the releases you have previously enjoyed. It is the assault on your "idea" of what Hermes is, rather than the assault on your senses, of this potential fruity floral, that would bother you the most I am guessing. If you decide to completely change the format of your blog or take it in a whole new direction, what in the world has that got to do with me? except if I have these "ideas" of what you should be doing or producing or reviewing, and then I might say you are wrong, but it is really my problem. It's been fun chatting with you about this. I know I stand alone with most of my views, but I wouldn't trade them for the world because they are very peaceful views - peaceful to me that is :) Well you see, that is the difference there. It is the conflict between your expectations and reality. If Hermes puts out a stinker, it is a stinker – to you. Any reaction is yours to choose. It's all about not giving our power away to others. If I have determined I know best how other bloggers should conduct their reviews, then I am going to get upset when they do otherwise. Since I can't control what other people do, I set myself up to have my buttons pushed when things don't go as I think they should.

Why can't Hermes put out whatever they want? They can put out a crappy fruity floral (which about 1/2 the population would probably love) and you can just simply decide not buy it while still appreciating all the releases you have previously enjoyed. It is the assault on your “idea” of what Hermes is, rather than the assault on your senses, of this potential fruity floral, that would bother you the most I am guessing.

If you decide to completely change the format of your blog or take it in a whole new direction, what in the world has that got to do with me? except if I have these “ideas” of what you should be doing or producing or reviewing, and then I might say you are wrong, but it is really my problem.

It's been fun chatting with you about this. I know I stand alone with most of my views, but I wouldn't trade them for the world because they are very peaceful views – peaceful to me that is :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/09/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23733 Anonymous Fri, 11 May 2007 18:54:00 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/10/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23733 I do find the context matters. If Hermes releases a crappy fruity floral, it is going to upset me. If Paris Hilton releases one, I will probably find it mildly amusing. That isn't to say that I'll like the one better than the other, but my reactions to them will be quite different. Same goes with cost. I enjoy wearing Body Time's Egyptian Musk, but if it cost $100, well, hey, it isn't all that. But I certainly hope everyone takes everything I say with a very large grain of salt. I know I do! I do find the context matters. If Hermes releases a crappy fruity floral, it is going to upset me. If Paris Hilton releases one, I will probably find it mildly amusing. That isn't to say that I'll like the one better than the other, but my reactions to them will be quite different. Same goes with cost. I enjoy wearing Body Time's Egyptian Musk, but if it cost $100, well, hey, it isn't all that.

But I certainly hope everyone takes everything I say with a very large grain of salt. I know I do!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/09/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23732 Anonymous Fri, 11 May 2007 18:26:00 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/10/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23732 I can see exactly where you're coming from, really. Not everyone is going to want to take it to the next level, and that is fine. I really and truly like perfumes for their smell. Any boost achieved via the psychological value of a perfume, due to it's house or cost, or even the advertising, is short-lived and unsatisfying. The drive to attain it again and again (due to its fleeting nature), is exactly the type of thing that makes us vulnerable to the materialistic drive of this society. I enjoy reading your blog, or else I wouldn't be here reading! But, I take what you say, along with everyone else, with a grain of salt; another facet of possible perspectives. To make decisions or to be influenced by others is our prerogative, but to blame these people, well that is just plain insane and makes one a victim rather than responsible for their own opinions - which in truth we are. But...I see your point, I just disagree with it from a larger perspective :) I can see exactly where you're coming from, really. Not everyone is going to want to take it to the next level, and that is fine. I really and truly like perfumes for their smell. Any boost achieved via the psychological value of a perfume, due to it's house or cost, or even the advertising, is short-lived and unsatisfying. The drive to attain it again and again (due to its fleeting nature), is exactly the type of thing that makes us vulnerable to the materialistic drive of this society. I enjoy reading your blog, or else I wouldn't be here reading! But, I take what you say, along with everyone else, with a grain of salt; another facet of possible perspectives. To make decisions or to be influenced by others is our prerogative, but to blame these people, well that is just plain insane and makes one a victim rather than responsible for their own opinions – which in truth we are.

But…I see your point, I just disagree with it from a larger perspective :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/09/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23703 Anonymous Fri, 11 May 2007 17:24:00 +0000 http://www.nstperfume.com/2007/05/10/perfume-blogging-ethics/#comment-23703 LOL -- weeeelllll, never say never! I can state that so far, it has not been an issue, as JC(E) has not deigned to offer himself up as an interviewee. And if he did, I might have a very hard time refusing. Note that I did not include the statement "I do not do interviews with perfumers" in my blurb above :-) But the problem is this. Let's just say that in some dream world, JCE says sure, I'll do an interview, let's time it for the release of Kelly Caleche. And then I try Kelly Caleche, and I not only don't like it, but I actually think it is utter crap. Am I going to print an interview with JCE one day, post that KC is utter crap the next? That would be *very* hard to do, maybe not for others, but certainly for me. So, for the most part, I think its best that I not do interviews, or at the very least, not do what I did in the beginning, which was to follow interviews with reviews of the person's scents. And HA -- clearly, blogs do NOT influence marketing & development decisions! LOL — weeeelllll, never say never! I can state that so far, it has not been an issue, as JC(E) has not deigned to offer himself up as an interviewee. And if he did, I might have a very hard time refusing. Note that I did not include the statement “I do not do interviews with perfumers” in my blurb above :-)

But the problem is this. Let's just say that in some dream world, JCE says sure, I'll do an interview, let's time it for the release of Kelly Caleche. And then I try Kelly Caleche, and I not only don't like it, but I actually think it is utter crap. Am I going to print an interview with JCE one day, post that KC is utter crap the next? That would be *very* hard to do, maybe not for others, but certainly for me. So, for the most part, I think its best that I not do interviews, or at the very least, not do what I did in the beginning, which was to follow interviews with reviews of the person's scents.

And HA — clearly, blogs do NOT influence marketing & development decisions!

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